Unpublished Interview with Geoff Johns from 2003

By Avi Green

This was an interview I'd managed to do in 2003 with the popular writer of the Flash, JSA, Teen Titans, Hawkman, and a couple of other books, Geoff Johns, that I'd once worked on in 2003, but sadly was never able to publish then. But now, here it is for everybody's pleasure to check out, right on my site here.

Avi Green: To begin, when you first began your career in entertainment, did you first work in movies, as an assistant to director Richard Donner, who directed Superman 1 & 2?

Geoff Johns: Thankfully, yes I did.

AG: How and what was it like working for Mr. Donner? Was it fun? What was your exact job when working for him?

GJ: I was with him every day for four years and it was fantastic. The amount of knowledge and facts and philosophy about life and work he gave me I'll never be able to repay. He's one of my best friends and it was one of the greatest experiences of my entire life. I assisted him on anything he needed help with -- from accompanying him to creative meetings, to making sure he had his script notes and script in hand every second of the shoot, to reminding him it was the Monday Night Football premiere.

AG: Do you still work in movies today?

GJ: My main job is in comic books, but I am doing writing for film and tv.

AG: Were you a comics fan and collector when growing up?

GJ: Absolutely. My brother and I both were. We were mostly DC fanatics, the Flash and Green Lantern were our two favorites. We used to gamble with comic books. I lost a great first appearance of Guy Gardner to him. He still has it. The bastard.

AG: What was the first comic book you read?

GJ: The first one I read was The Flash #193 from the 60's. It was in my grandmother's attic. The first comic I remember buying was Batman and the Outsiders #13 in 1984. About twenty years ago. That was when it began to become routine. I didn't know who the hell anyone was in Batman and the Outsiders except for Metamorpho because my grandmother had Metamorpho #1 in the attic too -- but I loved it. I also remember reading JLA #240 on a camping trip or something. I didn't really get into comics until I was 10 or 11.

AG: What was the first Flash issue you read?

GJ: See above.

AG: Did you ever have any letters published in any of the titles you read and corresponded to the publishers about? I think I remember reading on your website’s board that you did indeed have at least one letter printed in the Flash’s second volume in the mid-1990’s, and I think it’s always cool to have a letter published. Are there any others?

GJ: I had a letter in Doom Patrol somewhere in like 1980something. And I had a letter or two in Flash about ten years ago. Maybe even one in Superboy. I can't remember. That was before the internet, when you actually had to take real time to write to a book. I wonder if they still get letters? I miss the letter columns. The internet just isn't the same.

AG: You know, I’ve sometimes wondered, is it possible for any of the goofy story ideas used in the Silver Age to work even today? Speaking of which, that cover that Brian Bolland drew for issue 175 with the Weather Wizard sure came close to resembling some of the lunacy depicted back then! Wow, that was amazing!

GJ: Yeah. Brian did a great job with the Flash. Obviously, I'm a fan of the Silver Age but not because of plain old nostalgia. This was the classic DC Universe forming. The very foundation that kept the DCU alive. And I'm constantly of the mind that keeping these classic characters -- like the Rogues -- alive and well for the next generation is my job. Everyone already knows who Captain Cold is -- the trick is to make them care. I think almost anything can still work today. Even the Sea Devils.

AG: How did you get into working in comics?

GJ: Long story short. I met some guys from DC on a film set, I pitched them an idea called Stars and STRIPE. I got lucky, I worked hard, and I got lucky again.

AG: What was the first comic book you wrote?

GJ: Stars and STRIPE #1. Though Star Spangled Comics #1 and Stars and STRIPE #0 came out first. I wrote a Superboy story for practice months before that. I don't think it was very good. The Scavenger was in it. That's all I remember.

AG: Is co-writing a book, as you’ve done with David S. Goyer on JSA, and James Robinson on Hawkman, fun? How do co-writing teams work on coming up with ideas on what the story can be like, what characters can be used, the dialogue, stuff like that?

GJ: Yes, because working with good creative people is fun. In reality, a  lot of my stories are bounced off the editors and artists I work with. This is a creative process that involves everyone -- and everyone has a say. Co-writing a book is fun, because I've done it with people I like and respect.

AG: I’ve noticed that a lot of today’s writers, including you, don’t seem to use thought balloons. They really seem to have become very minimal in use since the mid-1990’s, with narration by the lead characters taking their place instead. Why is this? Can you help answer my puzzlement as to why thought balloons, if not narrative boxes by the writer/editor, aren’t used much today, if at all? Couldn’t they help, say, in letting the readers know what’s on the supporting characters minds?

GJ: I still use thought balloons -- they're just laid out as captions and in my mind work just as well. The Flash has them, Teen Titans #7 is full of them, we've had various members of the JSA narrate individual issues. Why they've all but disappeared, I'm not sure, but again in my mind we still have them -- they've just evolved.

AG: If DC gave you the assignment of writing a book for Jessie Quick, would you want to write a series or a miniseries for her?

GJ: I'd do a Captain Cold mini-series before a Jesse Quick one. But Jesse would be fun.

AG: Do you think that Impulse will someday, if not today, get to star in his own solo book again?

GJ: KID FLASH #1? Maybe someday. That'd be cool. I do like having a somewhat free reign on that character in Teen Titans though. It's so funny because Mike (McKone) and I started on Teen Titans with a pretty set list of who our favorite characters are -- but after only a few issues everyone's been bubbling up to the top, Bart quicker than perhaps anyone else.

AG: This reminds me, do you have creative control over just about all the characters in connection with the Flash's world just now? With both Bart and Jesse included, it certainly does seem that way.
 
GJ: Pretty much, but of course, everything is always run through the editors -- from Peter Tomasi on JSA with Jay and Jesse to Eddie with Bart and Joey with the Flash. It's all about working as a team.

AG: Will we be seeing any more of Julie Jackam’s orphaned son, Josh, in the future?

GJ: Perhaps. No set plans to make him a major character -- but his dad, Weather Wizard, is still out there so who knows.

AG: Are Iris West Allen and Fred Chyre going to become romantically attached to each other, with the latter possibly becoming Iris’ second love in life after Barry? (In other words, is there a life and a love for her after Barry’s death?)

GJ: Signs point to "not likely".

AG: Do you think that Wally needs an authentic father figure in his life, which could probably be his father-in-law, John Park, Linda's dad?

GJ: I think Jay is a pretty good one. Linda's dad -- Wally is a bit  uncomfortable around him (as we've seen in #174). Jay, to me, is a great father figure for not only Wally -- but most of the honest, hard-working heroes today.

AG: Of all the crooks who’ve menaced the Flash to date, who are your favorites?

GJ: Besides Cold -- Zoom, Grodd and Mirror Master. Really, though, he's got the best Rogues Gallery this side of Batman's.

AG: Is the reason that until now, you’ve largely avoided time travel stories, save for one such adventure in the DC 1st issue you wrote where Wally West, Jay Garrick and Superman got pitted against Abra Kadabra, because Mark Waid wrote quite a few time travel stories during his tenure on the title, and you feel that it’s wise to give the theme a rest for awhile?

GJ: Actually, yeah. If you look at what Scott and I did -- we never took the Flash out of Keystone from #170 to #192 -- in #193 he went to Gorilla City. We wanted to really focus on Keystone and its residents for awhile. As for a time travel story -- I'm sure Howard Porter and I will get to one. There is an idea floating around.

AG: Is the current de-facto dark angle being used in the Flash only temporary? Do you agree that a bright angle is what works best for the series as a whole?

GJ: Both of your questions just made my point. LOL. Keep reading.

AG: With the Spectre having erased the world’s collective knowledge of who the Scarlet Speedster is, are things going to stay that way, or is that only temporary too?

GJ: Do you really think I'm going to answer that? LOL. Okay, I will. Maybe.

AG: Having seen how dangerous the new Reverse-Flash is, I later thought to myself that, if the Flash can be nicknamed the Monarch of Motion, then can this Reverse-Flash be called the Satan of Speed, given how facing him is almost akin to facing the devil, since he can suspend himself in time, and his weaknesses, if any, are those flashback windows in time containing scenes of things that occurred in the past. Do you think that’s a fitting description of him?

GJ: Perhaps, though I don't think I can call him Satan in a DCU book. Reverse-Flash will not be gone for that long.

AG: As impressed as I was with him, if Hunter Zolomon returns, I hope he’ll amount to more than just cruelty, and that, like his Silver/Bronze Age counterpart, Eobard Thawne, he’ll prove to be an expert inventor, which I’m sure is possible, seeing how he at least tried to tool the Cosmic Treadmill to his favor. Will he, and, can he prove to be psychologically challenging too?

GJ: He’s a criminal psychologist -- that's more deadly than an inventor.

AG: Do you think that Wally should have even a part-time job, whether people know he’s the Flash or not?

GJ: I think that's up to Wally. In my eyes, now that Wally has a chance to have a dual life -- he's going to take advantage of it. He likes his job, so I'm guessing he'll keep it.

AG: Now, for the JSA, who are your favorite characters within that team?

GJ: Everyone. There's not a single character I dislike. My favorite at the moment is Doctor Mid-Nite. I'm very happy with his role in Black Reign and his upcoming role afterwards. I'm also really enjoying Jay's role in Black Reign as well.

AG: And, in the Avengers, who are your favorite characters among them?

GJ: Captain American and the Falcon are in the far lead. Hawkeye a somewhat distant third.

AG: And then, who are your favorite characters in the Teen Titans?

GJ: Like JSA, all of them.

AG: Who are your favorite comics writers, both old and new?

GJ: Gardner Fox, John Broome, James Robinson, Alan Moore, John Ostrander, Mark Waid and Grant Morrison.

AG: Do you ever feel that fans may have typecast you as a comics writer, when you’ve also worked in film writing?

GJ: It doesn't bother me at all. I love comics and I hope to working with comics for a long time to come.

AG: And lastly, will there be any trade paperbacks coming out soon of any of your recent work at DC?
 
GJ: The Flash: Crossfire is coming out next year, as well as another Hawkman and JSA trade I believe. There may be more in the works. I'm not sure.

Thanks, Avi!

Geoff

Flash: Crossfire is currently available at Barnes and Noble, plus Teen Titans: A Kid's Game. The Flash: Blitz TPB made its debut in August 2004. And Hawkman: Endless Flight, that's been published in TPB in 2003.

I hope everyone's enjoyed this interview I conducted. It sure gave me some ideas on how to do an interview, and with this experience, I'll hopefully be able to conduct more in the future.

Copyright 2003 Avi Green. All rights reserved.

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